I stopped the interview, turned to the camera, and apologized. In that moment—under the bright lights and fighting tears—I told people the conversation had gone off the rails.
Let me back up: I connected with Peter Crone (The Mind Architect) online and admired his work from a distance, so I invited him on my podcast to explain why entrepreneurs get stuck and how to change it.
I researched. I prepped. I was ready.
…AND THEN THINGS CAME TO CRASH AROUND THE 21-MINUTE MARK.
Somewhere during the conversation, I lost control of asking questions and, instead, Peter began interviewing me. On my podcast.
Answers unfurled from my mouth and I soon realized I said too much.
I made the episode about me. The cracks revealed themselves.
No, no this was all wrong…the show isn’t about me, it’s about THEM, I tried explaining in vain to Peter, pointing to the camera.
(In my mind, I was point to you, reading this now.)
But the truth was that I was embarrassed, overwhelmed, and totally exposed.
I wanted to stick to the plan, but Peter had other ideas.
He asked me if I would be willing to be open and talk about the truth of my journey…and the rawness of where I am now.
Peter invited me to be an example of what it truly means to do the inner work, publicly.
The room was silent. The video team looked away, my producer shuffled papers, Peter simply stared at me.
Okay, fine. FIIIIINE. I will do this.
What unfolded was a conversation that cracked me wide open, and I’m sharing it on my podcast today.
As I write this letter—a month after we recorded—I can say (beyond a shadow of a doubt) that my professional life changed because of this conversation.
I’m broken in the right places, I’m free to let go, and I’m empowered to build something bigger than I ever imagined.
I was tempted to NOT share this episode, to keep it in an archive for my personal review.
I, however, am sharing it because I deeply hope that after watching/listening to it, you will break, release, and then build something bigger than you can imagine.
If you know someone who’d like to experience the same, forward this note, and join this podcast conversation online. I can’t wait to hear from you.
To doing the work, publicly,
j*
